Conversations in Razz (Pt 1)

After getting all my money in on 6th Street and improving my 7 to a 6 low on 7th

Razz-Guy "Nice river"
Tanorpheus "Yup, Lucky"

3 hands later after me being a calling station, but not getting allin and him beating my 7 with a 6

Tanorpheus "Nice river"
Razz-Guy "Wasn't rivered"
Tanorpheus "HH says it was"
Razz-Guy "HH mixed the hole cards up"
Razz-Guy "Cause live you wouldn't know what they were"
TanOrpheus "Oh"
- TanOrpheus stands up -

...I'll get my coat...

Super Sunday ?

Woken up by the cats this morning for breakfast, I was pretty knackered after staying up late playing Razz, so instead of going back to sleep after feeding them I got some coffee on the played more Razz. Couple of hours later and I've turned $25 into $95 with standard plays against guys who call down every street and a 3bet on the river with J,7,3,2,A vs my 6,5,4,3,A... lol Razz is easy !

About 2pm after starting to watch the Sunderland - Portsmouth game I crashed on the sofa, only waking up 4 hours later when Roberts scored in the dying minutes of the Bolton - Blackburn game. Very confusing for a few minutes!

After reading that Acorn qualified for the Sunday Mill earlier in the week I decided to have a crack at an $8+R satellite myself, and now thanks to some quad 6's at a fortunate moment I'm in the Million tonight too. That sleep this afternoon might come in handy tonight if I run well enough to go deep.

Finally I'm watching the Chargers - Colts game now on SkySports after I noticed on $mokkee's blog that not only could I get better odds than 4-1 on betfair but also that Waffles aka The Cooler had picked Indy to win. That's gotta be a +EV bet anyday so I've got £15 on San Diego at 6.4 :o)

Go Chargers !!!

Razz has even bigger donks than NLHE !

Who knew ?!

Full Tilt Poker Game #4837824210: Table jusmoney - $2/$4 Ante $0.40 - Limit Razz - 21:09:47 ET - 2008/01/12
Seat 2: Gazza_20042 ($65.40)
Seat 3: KCFHI ($48.20)
Seat 4: grandpopp ($28.70)
Seat 5: TanOrpheus ($42.20)
Seat 6: geltman ($69.40)
Seat 7: b r n n 420 ($90.60)
Seat 8: ICTOASN ($83)
ICTOASN antes $0.40
grandpopp antes $0.40
TanOrpheus antes $0.40
KCFHI antes $0.40
b r n n 420 antes $0.40
Gazza_20042 antes $0.40
geltman antes $0.40
*** 3RD STREET ***
Dealt to Gazza_20042 [6c]
Dealt to KCFHI [Js]
Dealt to grandpopp [9h]
Dealt to TanOrpheus [2d 3h] [Ad]
Dealt to geltman [3s]
Dealt to b r n n 420 [3c]
Dealt to ICTOASN [8c]
KCFHI is high with [Js]
KCFHI brings in for $0.50
grandpopp folds
TanOrpheus completes it to $2
geltman calls $2
b r n n 420 raises to $4
ICTOASN folds
Gazza_20042 folds
KCFHI folds
TanOrpheus calls $2
geltman calls $2
*** 4TH STREET ***
Dealt to TanOrpheus [2d 3h Ad] [6d]
Dealt to geltman [3s] [8h]
Dealt to b r n n 420 [3c] [Kd]
TanOrpheus bets $2
geltman calls $2
b r n n 420 calls $2
*** 5TH STREET ***
Dealt to TanOrpheus [2d 3h Ad 6d] [Td]
Dealt to geltman [3s 8h] [6h]
Dealt to b r n n 420 [3c Kd] [7c]
geltman bets $4
b r n n 420 calls $4
TanOrpheus raises to $8
geltman raises to $12
b r n n 420 raises to $16
TanOrpheus calls $8
geltman calls $4
*** 6TH STREET ***
Dealt to TanOrpheus [2d 3h Ad 6d Td] [5h]
Dealt to geltman [3s 8h 6h] [Ks]
Dealt to b r n n 420 [3c Kd 7c] [7s]
TanOrpheus bets $4
geltman calls $4
b r n n 420 calls $4
*** 7TH STREET ***
Dealt to TanOrpheus [2d 3h Ad 6d Td 5h] [4d]
TanOrpheus bets $4
geltman calls $4
b r n n 420 calls $4
*** SHOW DOWN ***
TanOrpheus shows [4d 3h Ad 6d Td 5h 2d] 5,4,3,2,A
geltman mucks
b r n n 420 mucks
TanOrpheus wins the pot ($90.30) with 5,4,3,2,A
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot $93.30 | Rake $3
Seat 2: Gazza_20042 folded on 3rd St.
Seat 3: KCFHI folded on 3rd St.
Seat 4: grandpopp folded on 3rd St.
Seat 5: TanOrpheus showed [4d 3h Ad 6d Td 5h 2d] and won ($90.30) with 5,4,3,2,A
Seat 6: geltman mucked [Jh 5s 3s 8h 6h Ks As] - 8,6,5,3,A
Seat 7: b r n n 420 mucked [Jd 5d 3c Kd 7c 7s 4h] - J,7,5,4,3
Seat 8: ICTOASN folded on 3rd St.

Razz-le Dazzle

As you know I'm a complete donk, prooven conclusively by my AJ allin call vs Hoy's AQ in Kat's Rebuy donkament last night. I have bad excuses for the call of course, (drink/rebuy mode/3am) but that's not why I'm posting.

I've just spread my donkery to a new game, Razz. I don't really know what I'm doing (which is so cool by the way, seeing something new every hand you play) so maybe someone out there knows about Razz and can tell me how badly or well I played my first winning Razz hands...

PokerStars Game #14504288748: Razz Limit ($0.50/$1.00) - 2008/01/12 - 12:28:27 (ET)
Table 'Phaetusa III' 8-max
Seat 1: jaf3rdtx ($13.80 in chips)
Seat 2: EazyListenin ($19.90 in chips)
Seat 3: TanOrpheus ($11.45 in chips)
Seat 4: chipwitch ($20.40 in chips)
Seat 5: cdp4me ($4.95 in chips)
Seat 6: snoopaloop12 ($25.60 in chips)
Seat 7: mikeybabie ($18.05 in chips)
Seat 8: OPCflo ($4.10 in chips)
jaf3rdtx: posts the ante $0.05
EazyListenin: posts the ante $0.05
TanOrpheus: posts the ante $0.05
chipwitch: posts the ante $0.05
cdp4me: posts the ante $0.05
snoopaloop12: posts the ante $0.05
mikeybabie: posts the ante $0.05
OPCflo: posts the ante $0.05
*** 3rd STREET ***
Dealt to jaf3rdtx [Qh]
Dealt to EazyListenin [9h]
Dealt to TanOrpheus [4c 3d Qc]
Dealt to chipwitch [Td]
Dealt to cdp4me [As]
Dealt to snoopaloop12 [3h]
Dealt to mikeybabie [Qd]
Dealt to OPCflo [2h]
jaf3rdtx: brings in for $0.25
EazyListenin: folds
TanOrpheus: calls $0.25
chipwitch: folds
cdp4me: folds
snoopaloop12: calls $0.25
mikeybabie: folds
OPCflo: calls $0.25
*** 4th STREET ***
Dealt to jaf3rdtx [Qh] [7s]
Dealt to TanOrpheus [4c 3d Qc] [2s]
Dealt to snoopaloop12 [3h] [2c]
Dealt to OPCflo [2h] [4h]
snoopaloop12: bets $0.50
OPCflo: calls $0.50
jaf3rdtx: folds
TanOrpheus: raises $0.50 to $1
snoopaloop12: calls $0.50
OPCflo: calls $0.50
*** 5th STREET ***
Dealt to TanOrpheus [4c 3d Qc 2s] [7c]
Dealt to snoopaloop12 [3h 2c] [8c]
Dealt to OPCflo [2h 4h] [Tc]
snoopaloop12: bets $1
OPCflo: folds
TanOrpheus: raises $1 to $2
snoopaloop12: calls $1
*** 6th STREET ***
Dealt to TanOrpheus [4c 3d Qc 2s 7c] [9c]
Dealt to snoopaloop12 [3h 2c 8c] [4s]
snoopaloop12: bets $1
TanOrpheus: calls $1
*** RIVER ***
Dealt to TanOrpheus [4c 3d Qc 2s 7c 9c] [Jc]
snoopaloop12: bets $1
TanOrpheus: calls $1
*** SHOW DOWN ***
snoopaloop12: shows [8h Th 3h 2c 8c 4s 9s] (Lo: 9,8,4,3,2)
TanOrpheus: shows [4c 3d Qc 2s 7c 9c Jc] (Lo: 9,7,4,3,2)
TanOrpheus collected $11.90 from pot
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot $12.40 | Rake $0.50
Seat 1: jaf3rdtx folded on the 4th Street
Seat 2: EazyListenin folded on the 3rd Street (didn't bet)
Seat 3: TanOrpheus showed [4c 3d Qc 2s 7c 9c Jc] and won ($11.90) with Lo: 9,7,4,3,2
Seat 4: chipwitch folded on the 3rd Street (didn't bet)
Seat 5: cdp4me folded on the 3rd Street (didn't bet)
Seat 6: snoopaloop12 showed [8h Th 3h 2c 8c 4s 9s] and lost with Lo: 9,8,4,3,2
Seat 7: mikeybabie folded on the 3rd Street (didn't bet)
Seat 8: OPCflo folded on the 5th Street

Was I just lucky as hell that my 9,7,4,3,2 beat his 9,8,4,3,2 or was I putting money in on the right streets ?

PokerStars Game #14504794153: Razz Limit ($0.50/$1.00) - 2008/01/12 - 12:54:45 (ET)
Table 'Phaetusa III' 8-max
Seat 1: jaf3rdtx ($19.45 in chips)
Seat 2: EazyListenin ($24.95 in chips)
Seat 3: TanOrpheus ($16.20 in chips)
Seat 4: chipwitch ($13 in chips)
Seat 5: Marek Nowak ($12.35 in chips)
Seat 6: snoopaloop12 ($19.05 in chips)
Seat 7: mikeybabie ($23.35 in chips)
jaf3rdtx: posts the ante $0.05
EazyListenin: posts the ante $0.05
TanOrpheus: posts the ante $0.05
chipwitch: posts the ante $0.05
Marek Nowak: posts the ante $0.05
snoopaloop12: posts the ante $0.05
mikeybabie: posts the ante $0.05
*** 3rd STREET ***
Dealt to jaf3rdtx [Js]
Dealt to EazyListenin [9s]
Dealt to TanOrpheus [7s 4s 8s]
Dealt to chipwitch [Jh]
Dealt to Marek Nowak [6h]
Dealt to snoopaloop12 [Qs]
Dealt to mikeybabie [Kc]
mikeybabie: brings in for $0.25
jaf3rdtx: folds
EazyListenin: folds
TanOrpheus: calls $0.25
chipwitch: folds
Marek Nowak: raises $0.25 to $0.50
snoopaloop12: calls $0.50
chipwitch is sitting out
mikeybabie: folds
TanOrpheus: calls $0.25
*** 4th STREET ***
Dealt to TanOrpheus [7s 4s 8s] [Ad]
Dealt to Marek Nowak [6h] [3s]
Dealt to snoopaloop12 [Qs] [3h]
Marek Nowak: bets $0.50
snoopaloop12: calls $0.50
TanOrpheus: calls $0.50
*** 5th STREET ***
Dealt to TanOrpheus [7s 4s 8s Ad] [3d]
Dealt to Marek Nowak [6h 3s] [Jd]
Dealt to snoopaloop12 [Qs 3h] [Ac]
TanOrpheus: checks
Marek Nowak: checks
snoopaloop12: checks
*** 6th STREET ***
Dealt to TanOrpheus [7s 4s 8s Ad 3d] [9h]
Dealt to Marek Nowak [6h 3s Jd] [2s]
Dealt to snoopaloop12 [Qs 3h Ac] [Kh]
TanOrpheus: bets $1
Marek Nowak: raises $1 to $2
snoopaloop12: folds
TanOrpheus: calls $1
*** RIVER ***
Dealt to TanOrpheus [7s 4s 8s Ad 3d 9h] [2h]
TanOrpheus: bets $1
Marek Nowak: calls $1
*** SHOW DOWN ***
TanOrpheus: shows [7s 4s 8s Ad 3d 9h 2h] (Lo: 7,4,3,2,A)
Marek Nowak: mucks hand
TanOrpheus collected $9.15 from pot
AlDorado has returned
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot $9.60 | Rake $0.45
Seat 1: jaf3rdtx folded on the 3rd Street (didn't bet)
Seat 2: EazyListenin folded on the 3rd Street (didn't bet)
Seat 3: TanOrpheus showed [7s 4s 8s Ad 3d 9h 2h] and won ($9.15) with Lo: 7,4,3,2,A
Seat 4: chipwitch folded on the 3rd Street (didn't bet)
Seat 5: Marek Nowak mucked [7h 5h 6h 3s Jd 2s 6c]
Seat 6: snoopaloop12 folded on the 6th Street
Seat 7: mikeybabie folded on the 3rd Street

After this he said "sick lucker" But was it ?

PokerStars Game #14504823054: Razz Limit ($0.50/$1.00) - 2008/01/12 - 12:56:14 (ET)
Table 'Phaetusa III' 8-max
Seat 1: jaf3rdtx ($19.35 in chips)
Seat 2: EazyListenin ($24.85 in chips)
Seat 3: TanOrpheus ($21.25 in chips)
Seat 5: Marek Nowak ($8.25 in chips)
Seat 6: snoopaloop12 ($18.30 in chips)
Seat 7: mikeybabie ($23 in chips)
Seat 8: AlDorado ($19.45 in chips)
jaf3rdtx: posts the ante $0.05
EazyListenin: posts the ante $0.05
TanOrpheus: posts the ante $0.05
Marek Nowak: posts the ante $0.05
snoopaloop12: posts the ante $0.05
mikeybabie: posts the ante $0.05
AlDorado: posts the ante $0.05
*** 3rd STREET ***
Dealt to jaf3rdtx [As]
Dealt to EazyListenin [4h]
Dealt to TanOrpheus [4s 6c 3c]
Dealt to Marek Nowak [6d]
Dealt to snoopaloop12 [Ts]
Dealt to mikeybabie [Qc]
Dealt to AlDorado [Jc]
mikeybabie: brings in for $0.25
AlDorado: folds
jaf3rdtx: calls $0.25
EazyListenin: folds
TanOrpheus: calls $0.25
Marek Nowak: folds
snoopaloop12: folds
*** 4th STREET ***
Dealt to jaf3rdtx [As] [Qh]
Dealt to TanOrpheus [4s 6c 3c] [Ah]
Dealt to mikeybabie [Qc] [Ac]
TanOrpheus: bets $0.50
mikeybabie: folds
jaf3rdtx: calls $0.50
*** 5th STREET ***
Dealt to jaf3rdtx [As Qh] [8h]
Dealt to TanOrpheus [4s 6c 3c Ah] [9h]
TanOrpheus: bets $1
jaf3rdtx: calls $1
*** 6th STREET ***
Dealt to jaf3rdtx [As Qh 8h] [3d]
Dealt to TanOrpheus [4s 6c 3c Ah 9h] [9d]
jaf3rdtx: bets $1
TanOrpheus: calls $1
*** RIVER ***
Dealt to TanOrpheus [4s 6c 3c Ah 9h 9d] [6s]
jaf3rdtx: bets $1
TanOrpheus: calls $1
*** SHOW DOWN ***
jaf3rdtx: shows [2c 8d As Qh 8h 3d 8s] (Lo: Q,8,3,2,A)
TanOrpheus: shows [4s 6c 3c Ah 9h 9d 6s] (Lo: 9,6,4,3,A)
TanOrpheus collected $7.75 from pot
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot $8.10 | Rake $0.35
Seat 1: jaf3rdtx showed [2c 8d As Qh 8h 3d 8s] and lost with Lo: Q,8,3,2,A
Seat 2: EazyListenin folded on the 3rd Street (didn't bet)
Seat 3: TanOrpheus showed [4s 6c 3c Ah 9h 9d 6s] and won ($7.75) with Lo: 9,6,4,3,A
Seat 5: Marek Nowak folded on the 3rd Street (didn't bet)
Seat 6: snoopaloop12 folded on the 3rd Street (didn't bet)
Seat 7: mikeybabie folded on the 4th Street
Seat 8: AlDorado folded on the 3rd Street (didn't bet)

At Hold-Em I knew I when I was being a Donkey, now I don't have a clue ! Ignorance Is Bliss !!!